i don't want anyone at my funeral

My brother died five days ago. It will be very hard for me if she does as I haven't seen her face to face in over ten years. Have a few relatives that should and will not attend any funeral. I am genuinely curious to hear how others have handled this or plan to handle this when the time comes. And getting closure is harder when the perpetrators feel no remorse and don’t even recognize that they have hurt me and … Feelings are raw during a funeral but that is no reason to use the event to hurt others. A common family relationship problem is jealousy from other family members. My father had us get together to so we were on the same page and to discuss his will. Most conflicts come and arise due to family members who have strife. Write and place an obituary in their local paper. They only attend as I have seen as an outsider of this family only to be curious and have no respect and are extremely divisive. For some, they will find comfort in making tributes. So sad but they made their choice and you done all you could do. My sister is still married to him and he still comes over their house for holidays. How about in the obituary it’s reads. Anyone who saw her would have seen the rapid deterioration. Trackbacks/Pingbacks. she had me and my husband banned from seeing him at hospital I got sick had to be hospitalized in Pa.fter i was released we came on back to SC. obituary. Have a memorial service scheduled some distance in the future. can be sent to ??? I had encouraged my parents to get a court order, but they chose not to. The reason why we were estranged is that my mother emotionally abused me for several years whilst I lived at home. We were not informed. As a child, I'd suffered physical and mental abuse from my mother and older brother, both of whom suffered from borderline personality disorder. And I never saw or heard from him again. They really don't want to handle things in a mature way. If one is considering not having a funeral it is often for one of two reasons: 1)      The person who died expressly stated they didn’t want a funeral. She really isn't happy that I won't do as she says. We were so angry and disappointed in the family. Guess who got the full rage of the daugher who absolutely knew what she'd done. These people that call themselves extended family have had NOTHING to do with my family for over 40 years, no contact, no nothing and they were enjoying themselves in the cemetery and gloating. It hurts and it sucks. I revealed to my father that my sister's husband wasn't a college grad as he had told us but was actually a high school dropout multiple time felon with a rap sheet as long as my arm and that he shouldn't be giving him any more money. The service itself can be interpreted to mean the memorial service or it could be the graveside portion of the service only. He’d only be there to make himself feel better, not because he really cares. I finally came to terms with the fact that they felt like this about me from day one. My other sibling had been mom's 24/7 caretaker for many years.Prior to this, my other sibling, spouse and adult child never called, visited, or even sent a birthday card for almost 15 years. Should we have a very small private family graveside service and invite her, with folks who know what she is like, or should we have 2 separate graveside services, one for my brother and me, and a second one just for her with the minister? I think a lot depends on the type and level of the heinousness and how close the funeral organizers are to it. Our mom was very angry and resentful that they never visited our dad when he was sick and dying. Maybe they did. Just not sure I will ever feel the same about her. I asked her not to keep phoning me and told her the moment there was any change in mums condition I would let her know. Let the dead bury the dead! When our mum was dying in hospital I informed my sister immediately her response was "oh well". They remind me of my evil sister who would say the exact things...blamimg everyone else and obviously liking to start trouble. To my knowledge, my stepmom really had no enemies to speak of, and therefore, as mentioned up front, there was really no one that she didn't want at the service, at least not that I could think of. I recall discussing the need to visit with absent sibling in the past and being stonewalled by the absent sibling in terms of being too busy, not a good idea, etc. And there, I heard from another sister mom had been neglected & abuse by her, no wonder she wouldn't let us talk to mom, only when she felt like it...my mom was place through hospice and was told she only had 6 months or less to live, so I waited for my mom to get a little strength so I could bring her back home to Texas, when I place her in a nursing home, even thou it was a struggle, bcuz those people wouldn't do their job, Mom still lived almost 2 years. The only 'family' I want is my brother and mother and my friends. olivenea@hotmail.com on January 13, 2019: I'm having huge problems trying to support my mum and my stepfamily in planning her husband's funeral. Is not the black sheep? If she does, I would take great pleasure in slamming it in her face. i dont give a heck or poop. When my daughters passed away, I had no problem with anyone wanting to come to their services. Then maybe come back and try to explain the details you tried to convey. My husband laughed at me. Having just read the article about ‘banning’ family. Turns out my sister knew all of this about her husband and hid it from the rest of the family, which I believe was so she and her husband could steal money from my parents, which they had been doing for years under various schemes (my parents don't view it this way though they paid my sister and her husband tens of thousands of dollars over the years). I was taught somewhere between the two stories in any conflict lies the truth.... and we should never make any decision until we hear both. Your son does not escape blame in enabling your DIL to treat you this way. But I'm determined to attend her funeral. It doesn't have to be. Black sheep brings up a host of stereotypes like alcoholic, drug addict, whoremonger, ex-con. She is determined not to have me in my son's or grandson's lives--don't know why she should be so cruel. My caretaker sibling is totally opposed to them showing up now. Assume that he/she is there with good intentions. Many of you know that this subject is quite near and dear to my heart, and, after receiving more comments than I ever expected on my related articles, I see that I'm not alone (not hardly!). My great uncle bobby recently passed, and as a family we all agreed to let the immediate family grieve and they told us they would have a memorial service/picnic at a later time... they set the date, and family is coming from near and far, but a member of the family just texted us a week before the service to tell us only certain family members are invited(we were part of the chosen few to attend).... but others who had already asked for time off work, and others who knew the deceased well are not invited.... please keep in mind that the deceased always made a huge deal for family gatherings and welcomed everyone with open arms- he wouldnt have ever excluded anyone from his gatherings for any reason... now I can understand that they only want a small gathering for the memorial service but for the picnic afterwards I don’t understand why everyone cannot pay their respects... is it dishonoring the memory of the deceased? I believe it is totally up to the closest family members to the deceased to decide in such matters, and their wishes must be respected. Susan Reid (author) from Where Left is Right, CA on November 05, 2013: You and I are clearly kindred spirits on this one. To make matters worse, the Son is buying the old home place and having it moved to another property for them. You may call this plan diabolical; I call it practical and efficient. He said since I'd be dead, how will I know if the wishes were honored? I was and still am shunned by them all for close to 7 yrs now. 2. The banned person had their own funeral by writing up an obituary with the persons current picture, that looked old and inserted the face as if it was an actual looking obituary. But at the moment I am dealing with the aftermath from a very different perspective. I've written extensively on family betrayal and estrangement. She took money out for memorial expenses and did not let me know and invited everybody but me. I'm wondering if I am able to ban people from my own funeral. The good guys I always knew that they would do anything for me and I just needed to ask. Moms brother is 88 so he can’t travel and is 6/7 hours away. Even if she was in a coma, I guess they were going to move here. Attwood House 220 Marlpool Lane Kidderminster DY11 5DL, Phone: 01562 632081 Email: enquiries@attwoodfunerals.co.uk, https://www.attwoodfunerals.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/attwood-funerals-600x309-1.png, https://www.attwoodfunerals.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/attwood-funerals-vector-02-1.png, I would highly recommend Attwood Funerals. I'm being told police will be called if I show up. The last lunch we had together with the deceased last year I heard my aunt say to my father: "oh my lovely brother it is so lovely to see you". Then continue to move my ashes wherever they go. Is there a document I can use so that no one in my immediate family is notified of my death? You shouldn’t feel wrong about not wanting to attend the funeral, especially if you have a legitimate conflict. I was talking to my old aunt and she said she wasn’t going to have a funeral, she wanted to donate her body to medical research instead. Many families face this same problem. she never let me know he had passed or when services were.. she had him cremated. The author presents some strategies to deal with jealous relatives. Seriously, you could tell him it's a private service for family only and since he is not family it would be inappropriate for him to attend. that we are supposed to forgive our brother 70 x 70's times?? so much for strong family ties. I don't let her get away with her behavior and it increases her hostility toward me. We will decide on that later. Have everyone adjourn to an anteroom to have coffee, cookies, and fellowship. In my book, a funeral (like a wedding) is whatever you want it to be. I also learned this week from my sister that we have a history of mental illness in our family. I'm sorry I'm using this hub as a platform to vent my feelings. Today I went to the funeral of one of my brothers good friends from HS. When are the services that YOU are supposed to be putting on so we can show up with our crocodile tears and declare, "Oh yes, it's been soooo hard...? If there have been estrangements, feuds, or tensions within the family, you have those to contend with as well. The last ‘Direct Cremation’ we did cost the family around £1300 which included meeting with family, doctors fees, dealing with all necessary paperwork, simple coffin (maybe cardboard), transportation, cremation and scattering of ashes. I felt at total peace with having only a small - intimate, sweet gravesite service for my MOM, and if I had to do it all over again, I would do it exactly the same way. He told my sister what I had learned about her husband and my sister got so upset and went nuts for so long railing against me that over the next 18 months it put both of my parents in the hospital at death's doorstep. They show up so that no one can later accuse them of not being there. My mother-in-law has made it patently clear that she does not want anything to do with her daughter. Each of these suggestions has its pros and cons — especially number five because the last thing you will feel like doing while trying to grieve your loved one is to try to remember who you did or didn't speak to and who you did or didn't tell about the memorial service. You don't have to enable them or approve of their behaviour but empathy and compassion for the living should trump the desires of the deceased, who no longer have any. There may come a time when you have endured a harmful and stressful family relationship, and you may wonder if cutting ties is right for you. It's a very sad and frustrating situation. Others may simply seek the company of their extended family, and perhaps the reminder that life goes on, in the form of existing relationships in the family, and the generations yet to come. And some issues with my parents, but nothing that could not have been talked through. MM, How about a situation where the family says the service will be private, as per the deceased's wishes, but the funeral home says it will be an open service? My story how I got my sister get out of Scientology shows how to can help your family or friends out of a cult too. Dan Winters for Reader’s Digest. Carrie Lee Night from Northeast United States on April 14, 2014: Thank you for writing this very thought out hub :) I really appreciate the fact you explained this controversial subject with so many variables and scenarios :). I don’t understand how someone can get away with not including ANY family members. hey i'm corey i have webbed toes / twitter: @gogurtkid hey bears Archive Theme by Stijn November 6th 6:18 PM 52,702 notes. The motives of these siblings are all about THEM. Any my husband and I have to update our wills (currently, all 4 of our children will be sent to my brother in law and now they're all in their thirties! But take it from me. If you can’t make the effort when I’m alive, I don’t want you there when I’m dead. NMLady from New Mexico & Arizona on July 03, 2013: Love is the greatest commandment. I have had my share of bad guys but also my share of very good guys. Giving a … People attend funerals for all sorts of reasons and they are all valid. It seems that estrangement gives family members permission to exclude people from family events. I think this was very well written. Thanks, one and all for stopping by and venting. Especially because I don’t want people looking at me in a casket! I saw my younger brother afterwards who couldn't listen to why I had not spoken for five years because he had a different relationship with her. You'll probably capture more of the audience this way as they don't have to get in their cars and drive somewhere. But back to you. How can I tell her that the only person our mother would want at her funeral is my son. I found this totally distressing. Some people are just so abusive and want to feel superior to others here on earth. My sister informed me that he now wants to go to her funeral. Am I happy? I have no hard feelings towards them, but if they want nothing to do with me now that I'm alive I don't want to them to be bothered should anything happen to me. They are poisonous people who have upset many family members and would use the funeral to vent their anger after a few too many drinks. My parents made sure he knew. They are not worth it. What a surprise that would be, right?). This cousin, in recent years, has been denigrating my parents and myself with harsh judgements about my evil sister. This request is to disguise the fact that I dont think anyone other than children and my siblings would be there . If weddings can be private and have the soon-to-be married couple pick and choose who they want at wedding without any drama, then the same thing should be given to funereal. She promised she would honour my dads will and said she would keep us updated with the estate. I don't see how one can feel better by hurting another person. I see no issue with anyone coming that loved or respected the person who died. They hurt others because they want to HURT them. Not being an estranged family member myself, it's difficult for me to think like a black sheep who would crash someone's funeral. When you have sick family members involved (your story of the stepfather and siblings is not isolated-- that happens all the time) the celebration becomes a battlefield. Like the family politics go I was not included in the service. What if the person you don't want at the funeral is an immediate family member? If they make scenes, it should be made clear to them that none of that behavior will be tolerated. She hasn't got much. Those other relatives coming to support my family (who have been shocked by this level of hostility) will attend the proper funeral as well, but myself and my children and sibling will not attend as were we to do so it would be upsetting for my parents. When MIL died, hubby did not notify his sister or the niece. Sounds like the wishes of the living, using the dead as an excuse to be rude and stick it to someone of whom they don't approve. God bless you all. Although they are also highly personal occasions, they typically are wide open. But really it is quite pathetic of her to do this, I think. The deceased's wife decided not to provide her husband's siblings with the knowledge that their brother had died, leaving them to learn about his passing weeks later on social media. A funeral is about the living coming together to comfort one another in response to the passing of the deceased. My father taught me that. Mom never told him to block. So the call will be ours. Pat Crawford from Falher on May 15, 2019: I have more of a question than comment. Jack Hagan from New York on July 14, 2015: I wanted to do so but was not aware how to keep them away. For the sake of brevity, I'm using family member as my example. I have made it clear to my husband and close friends that I do not wish to have my brother at my funeral. My Grandmother was in the hospital prior to her death and said in la, sat in the car while her husband visited his Mother. We had no obligation to provide that opportunity for them. Drug addicts and attention seekers are often coping with mental health issues or an abusive past. I am thinking that maybe the author of the story could be the problem child in this family and likes to start trouble. If they had attended, many more would have been absent. She did not ask for me or anyone else. At our father's funeral 20 years ago, state troopers were present, as she told them my brother planned to kill her. They were fighting to get MIL into a nursing home. The only time I would ever even consider banning anyone from a family member's funeral with whom someone had any strife is if he/she made absolutely zero effort to try to reconcile their differences with the deceased person before his or her (the decedent's) passing. Mind you she wouldn't even let my Grandmother visit their home; and when my Grandmother fell ill, her son had to go to his Mother's house to help his siblings take care of her w/o any help from his wife. He is now in his 3rd year of college, so I see what is coming next. But commend you for everything you are doing. MIL was in hospice for 4 months. As a child who, at age 47, estranged his parents I would like to point out that the forgiveness option is only available when apologies are offered (on both sides, if necessary). My father is in his eighties now and the deceased is his much beloved sister. My sister says that I am being a martyre paying for the funeral. I have made ADA list. My friend was facing a decision many of us have or will face — should she go to the funeral of someone she didn't know well? FlourishAnyway from USA on June 14, 2013: Very interesting hub. Not surprisingly, family reactions when they got the news of MIL's passing were "It's all about me!! It is a false sense but they believe they have made a point. He is not respecting her wishes whatsoever! My mother passed away this past weekend. I know Carolyn and Mike and Angie. Brother is over bearing narciscist. Well, they are raising a new generation of vultures. There's nothing more i can say ir do as they refuse to have me in their lives. Everyone focused on the same thing. Just think of it if you were in my shoes. And at that point I decided that I was not going to put myself in a vulnerable toxic situation to protect myself. Arranging my brothers funeral, I contacted 2 Aunts and 1 cousin to say they weren't welcome, as had not been close to him for over 30 years. Can i just have stranger's at my near future funeral? What did I do to justify this behavior you ask? The sister had the nerve to ask if ME she could buy my parents' house within 3 hours of my Dad's funeral - and acted as if my Mom wasn't even in the room. I did NOT want the same ridiculing, mockery, laughter and joviality repeated at my mother's funeral. Absolutely, I will be there by my husband’s side to support him as I always have and always will be whether his family likes it or not. Your handling of the situation passes all the tests: 10 Commandments and Miss Manners! I have 5 brothers/sisters and only talk to 2. Because he would out of spite. Realize how difficult the estrangement must have been on him/her all this time. * Can you prevent them from coming to pay their last respects? November 22, 2018 at 5:06 am ... You made a good point when you said that my family will have to plan my funeral if I don’t do it right now. Let's face it. Since he died from that illness it seems a sure fire way to avoid them all. How can someone use their mother to get even a sibling for their own personal issues! Expecting one’s surviving spouse, siblings, children, grandchildren, and cousins to maintain hostilities on behalf of the deceased against other siblings, children, cousins, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, etc., will say much more about the deceased than any polite eulogies. If they wanted to host their own memorial, they were more than welcome to do so. made it adamant not to allow one of his nieces, To the wake or the funeral. This content is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. There was a huge argument on the phone between him and his nan and he refused to let her see the baby. How about looking at why you allowed your aunt to take care of your sick mother? Her grief is no greater than my mothers and her need to mourn is no more powerful. Blamed me for her permanent terminal illness. 'I don't want anyone to be sad or cry over me,' wrote Farias. appreciate your sharing here. Through personal experience, and conversations with friends and readers who’ve faced the same scenario, here are seven ways to do just that. No such conflict when Mom or Dad is in their "final resting place.". She said she had never wanted a funeral, that they were a waste of money and she could just go to the local medical school. His name was Alex and he was an amazing person with family and friends that loved him. Only recently have two of my nieces sought me out for a reconciliation. Shut them out. I haven’t spoken to them in 12 years, nor have I allowed them to have any relationship with my kids. That bloody simple. I am doubly sorry that in your time of sorrow you have to think about such a crazy idea as banning your own family member from the funeral! My mother had not spoken to us or we her for about 22yrs. Funeral arrangements are still pending. I read a horrible account of a daughter being banned from her mother's funeral because her step father hated her and he manipulated her siblings to stand with him. My heart hurts because we were unable to move past the past before she left this world and now my brother is telling me I am not welcome at the funeral. I have never been so relieved in my life. I was thinking of getting some flowers so that we could throw them out onto the lake as a symbolic gesture. Denying an entire family the ability to grieve the loss of a family member is heartless. Thank you for making the time to read this (GOD) BLESS!!! When those emotions are so crippling, it's common to turn them outward. ... You see, in February of this year we buried my precious momma, exactly three months later we were … It appears that I've been banned from saying a private goodbye to my mother, but that's my closure to the situation and our relationship. One day I came to the heartbreaking conclusion that my mother, father, sisters and I would never be the family I wished, quite contrary we are toxic for each other. My mothers funeral is tomorrow morning and I haven't heard anything from my family. I'd like to have something my friends and family can look at when I pass on so they can see some of the things I'd like at my own funeral. For me, the short story is, the state got a multi-million dollar judgement against my sister's husband for fraud. I was waiting for her to call me, and she didn't. If you were not there during their life please refrain from being there at their death. Who actually believes they are entitled to keep a family member from a funeral service? If i go, I've been threatened with physical violence and if I don't go, I'm heartless-Dam, if I don't and if I do. I find it meaningless and depressing that a family member be reminded of me in that fashion. I informed a nephew of this and he told me he wasn't interested in having any copies he just wants any photos of him as a child. It really seems that this is an alien word to some people. You have raised your son to be a giving, caring man. So we have not talk since we got the copy of will and I have contested will. Let's get the Christian solution out of the way first. She had banned us from attending the funeral until my mother called and begged for the family to attend. Leaving me to answer other family as to why he did not have wake like we did Dad. Then a few emails but mostly no response.). Both myself and my sister have started to come to terms with our abuse and now understand that the family has been through a lot of trauma. Anyone and everyone who knew the deceased could come and pay their respects. But, of course, by the time we're planning her funeral, my mother-in-law will only be with us in spirit. I told her there is no way I am going to do that, my son would be devastated. Now she is gone and now he thinks he has it all. This typically is financially motivated (read: inheritance) and has nothing whatsoever to do with their feelings (or lack thereof) for the deceased. I was also THREATENED by them that they would FORCE their presence at my mother's funeral. I can't understand why she is so bothered. I will drive in the funeral procession to the cemetery, I will stand amongst the mourners, I will see her casket lowered into the ground, and I will throw dirt on her grave. Understand how to perceive scheming family members now. He showed my Mom no respect whatsoever while she was alive, now he talks like they were best friends. If you know your deceased loved one did not want someone at funeral, let them know. A black sheep in my husband's family (my brother-in-law) was permitted to attend his father's funeral out of empathy (not so much forgiveness) even though he had stolen several thousand dollars from the dying father and lying about it. She also cared for her sister. So, if I list the names in my will that they are not to be allowed at my funeral, is it not the responsibility of my family or someone else like the funeral home to honor my wishes? My sister and I would like a relationship with our younger brother, but that's proving difficult. A few days later even though I was supposed to stay in bed and take it easy I flew to FL for the funeral and noticed the evil witch as I call her thought she was the queen of court. There were maybe 6 of us all all together, each sister spoke for a few moments about her memories of her dad and a grandchild said a blessing. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. Yesterday my son and myself went to start to clear my mums flat out. I will count myself lucky if I can sit in the back of the funeral home or in the parking lot as the Black Sheep of the family silently. For more information on low cost but dignified funerals in the Wyre Forest and surrounding areas contact Attwood Funerals. Now what? A charity in the UK called 'Stand Alone' that support both parents and children who have become estranged have stated that 1 in 5 are estranged from their family. My sister-in-law conveniently missed BOTH her parents' deaths, when she could have been there for both. I have never been so humiliated in all my life. When I met with my sister who has been estranged for more than 19 years, we discussed if we should attend the funeral. No invitation = no entry. Which they felt was exploitive. My father is terribly upset. Their reaction? It's not that we would have held one and shown these hypocrites (and the other family members who knew but did nothing) the door. I … FedUp: My facetious answer is how about a restraining order? We're angry, but also very saddened by the fact that nobody stepped in because what we experienced growing up has affected us for our entire lives. Paying for the after-party this time should n't be about the deceased is his much sister. Can use so that you can not tell the motives of these siblings are valid! 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